tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post7372341400476549243..comments2024-02-14T12:17:48.314-05:00Comments on Origin Hunters - Genetic Genealogist: The Third Brother: A Y-DNA TaleMichael R. Magliohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05944718334788556140noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-71916013025491157502019-08-10T20:59:02.906-04:002019-08-10T20:59:02.906-04:00I did test using Nat Geo Geno 2.0 and they got me ...I did test using Nat Geo Geno 2.0 and they got me R-P312. Back in our family branches, y1500s, we have Flemish, French and Portuguese people. Should I be tested again to confirm the group or should I do a Y test?? If so, which Y??Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10693840945893942255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-69564664531244311462016-08-29T13:47:40.512-04:002016-08-29T13:47:40.512-04:00Hi David,
Based on the current Y-DNA tree, R-A805...Hi David,<br /><br />Based on the current Y-DNA tree, R-A8051 would be considered a 4th brother in my above scenario. It is very new and additional testing at this time would not provide more detail.<br /><br />If you'd like to send me the STR kit #, I could look for more info.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />Mike<br /><br />cael.maglio@gmail.comMichael R. Magliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05944718334788556140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-27090057999202062822016-08-28T02:57:01.645-04:002016-08-28T02:57:01.645-04:00Mike,
Just did a test with Nat Geo Geno 2.0 and a...Mike,<br /><br />Just did a test with Nat Geo Geno 2.0 and as it turns out they place me in R-P310 (U106-, P312-, and CTS4528-). My father had done work with ftDNA in the hopes of determining if his relatives were really from Germany, as family tradition said. Traditional methods only got us to Philadlelphia PA around the 1780s. <br /><br />The STR test gave Dad a match with a Myers whose oldest relative was in the US in the early 19th century.<br /><br />So, reading the above is heartening. I believe we have a better chance of finding out our origins now, but looking at the latest YFull, and talking with as many people as I can, is it reasonable to seek further genetic studies that might disambiguate R-L151 from R-L151* and R-A8051? Or is the CTS4528- area too new to seek further testing?<br /><br />Thanks in advance,<br /><br />David.<br />David Myershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12789317448046534355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-64890828421187674672015-11-02T10:45:18.812-05:002015-11-02T10:45:18.812-05:00Yes I am interested in a 311 project. Any guidance...Yes I am interested in a 311 project. Any guidance would be appreciated. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13523034949065514700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-66240183507117734862015-11-02T10:42:20.563-05:002015-11-02T10:42:20.563-05:00Is the third brother P311? As I see 310, and 312 l...Is the third brother P311? As I see 310, and 312 listed.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13523034949065514700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-29260848297003150852015-06-23T17:34:57.764-04:002015-06-23T17:34:57.764-04:00I am interested in any top notch research of the r...I am interested in any top notch research of the research R1b1a2a1a lineage more specifically the SNP R-P311. Can you guide meUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13523034949065514700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-8781159228090548492015-04-15T21:27:51.732-04:002015-04-15T21:27:51.732-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.dnotleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02312070541410434700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-69044763762095909402015-04-15T21:27:00.161-04:002015-04-15T21:27:00.161-04:00Hi,
I can't get any lower in my R-Z307 line bu...Hi,<br />I can't get any lower in my R-Z307 line but I have both L11 and P310.<br />L11 is my last + marker.dnotleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02312070541410434700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-44703281161488091572015-02-01T00:28:44.008-05:002015-02-01T00:28:44.008-05:00This is a welcome call to join our facebook group ...This is a welcome call to join our facebook group to anyone who thinks they are DF100-CTS4528 or who have done a Natgeo Genome2 test and are U106- but not shown as P312+ or a member of any P312 sub-clade. <br /><br />Michael Maglio is a valued member of our fb group. It is here ... https://www.facebook.com/groups/southbalticdna/<br /><br />If you are DF100-CTS4528 please also join our ftDNA project here ... <br />https://www.familytreedna.com/public/DF100-CTS4528-L11-P310-L151-P311<br /><br />We also encourage DF100-CTS4528 people to join the ftDNA ft35 project ... <br />https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ht35new/<br /><br />Michael has done many interesting and highly informative reports. WE endorse his work and diagrams re our new 3rd Clade.<br /><br />Doug Marker - admin DF100-CTS45128 project.dsjm1https://www.blogger.com/profile/07779323885237127015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-6806609951554049112014-06-13T13:23:50.551-04:002014-06-13T13:23:50.551-04:00Hi,
R-P310 and R-L11 are essentially the same SNP...Hi,<br /><br />R-P310 and R-L11 are essentially the same SNP discovered at different labs. Geno 2.0 would have tested positive for R-U106 or R-P312 or something downstream of those SNPs if it was there. The raw data from Geno 2.0 would show those SNPs as negative. It is probable that your uncle is related to the 'Third Brother' (R-CTS4528 & DF100).<br /><br />The Big Y is on sale right now ($595) or you could test for R-CTS4528 & R-DF100 @ $39 each. To test individual SNPs, you may need to start with an FTDNA Y-DNA 37 marker STR kit ($169).<br /><br />The Big Y would definitely give you the terminal SNP answer. The Y-DNA STR test would help match other Mattingly men. I can't guarantee that the R-CTS4528 & DF100 tests would come back positive and then you would be still searching for your SNP.<br /><br />I'd be happy to discuss further or review your Geno results. MMaglio@OriginsDNA.com <br /><br />Thanks,<br />MikeMichael R. Magliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05944718334788556140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-71925399846531133492014-06-12T10:51:14.876-04:002014-06-12T10:51:14.876-04:00Hello Michael, Just got results back from a Geno 2...Hello Michael, Just got results back from a Geno 2.0 for my mother's brother which indicated he was R-P310 (no *). This became R-L11 (no *) when I transferred the results to FTDNA. My mothers family can be traced back to the Thomas Mattingly of Maryland who emigrated from Hampshire County, England (possibly the village of Mattingly) around 1663. I see a significant number of branches to the R-P310/L11 tree downstream. Any thoughts on whether Big-Y or separate SNP testing is best to determine the terminal SNP?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17127815303224324160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-91192322536778633962014-05-27T13:18:06.474-04:002014-05-27T13:18:06.474-04:00Hi,
I get it. Thank you for your time and your int...Hi,<br />I get it. Thank you for your time and your interesting technique.<br />I'll keep reading your blog and your youtube channel to know how far this can be developed.<br />Thanks.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14951565673298571425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-86657741006759778862014-05-27T10:39:42.188-04:002014-05-27T10:39:42.188-04:00Hi,
I only use the 95% FTDNA rate for multilatera...Hi,<br /><br />I only use the 95% FTDNA rate for multilateration. It had the best correlation to nomadic migration rate of 25 to 30 km per generation.<br /><br />Thanks Michael R. Magliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05944718334788556140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-38280759238318628132014-05-27T09:33:06.101-04:002014-05-27T09:33:06.101-04:00Oh, I forgot to ask you another thing:
When you ar...Oh, I forgot to ask you another thing:<br />When you are looking for the biogeographical multilateration, you consider both probabiities, the average of both or just one (50 or 95%)?<br />Sorry if I'm asking too much.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14951565673298571425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-77339340619548776722014-05-27T09:23:50.212-04:002014-05-27T09:23:50.212-04:00Hi,
Thank you so much for your quick answer. It is...Hi,<br />Thank you so much for your quick answer. It is clearer for me now.<br />I consider your technique to be very interesting (I have read your pdfs and watched your youtube videos) and it could give interesting results.<br />Keep up the great work.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14951565673298571425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-65789501553899933802014-05-27T07:33:26.969-04:002014-05-27T07:33:26.969-04:00Hi,
I use both the 50% and the 95% probability to...Hi,<br /><br />I use both the 50% and the 95% probability to create a range. For this study, that gave a 400 year difference (or +-200).<br /><br />Thanks,<br />MikeMichael R. Magliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05944718334788556140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-50867244916072838832014-05-26T15:17:01.478-04:002014-05-26T15:17:01.478-04:00Good afternoon (Spanish time) Mr. Maglio,
I find y...Good afternoon (Spanish time) Mr. Maglio,<br />I find your work and methodology quite interesting but I would love to know a couple of things, if it is not an inconvenient for you:<br />- how do you calculate the +-200 years in this study?<br />- do you use a probability of 95% with the FTDNA mutant rate?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14951565673298571425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-40414258544356234542014-05-18T17:57:11.077-04:002014-05-18T17:57:11.077-04:00My dna from geno 2 came back as p310 denmark my fa...My dna from geno 2 came back as p310 denmark my family originates from scotland Ayrshire from a village called bilsland ... Which is not far from the last viking battle at Largs Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01556913426678829032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-31371467032357623622014-03-22T12:51:28.427-04:002014-03-22T12:51:28.427-04:00Excellent site with regards to both information an...Excellent site with regards to both information and presentation. Great job!!!Peter MacDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03166118494652234649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-81258341635727983122014-03-06T10:53:28.638-05:002014-03-06T10:53:28.638-05:00Mike
So probably I need to wait for the new termin...Mike<br />So probably I need to wait for the new terminal SNP? I NOW see that it is my Carrow line as well as my Rementer (Alsace? Mainz?) 5th great great..<br />One REMENTER cousin not only is positive for L11,P310,L52P311 at 23andme but has tested these at FTDNA :<br />Your Haplogroup Tests Taken <br />R-P310 L23+, L49+, L51+, L52+, M269+, P310+, P311+, L50-, M153-, M222-, M37-, M65-, P312-, P66-, SRY2627-, U106-, U152- <br /><br />So that indicates we wait for a SNP? Thanks so much Mike!! I administer the Rementer as well as Carrow,Dugan,Faunt and Lower Delmarva groups.. a lot but this is quite exciting for me..<br />kathlingramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-60127848058858263712014-03-05T21:25:19.020-05:002014-03-05T21:25:19.020-05:00Hi Kathleen,
A basic SNP test is done to verify h...Hi Kathleen,<br /><br />A basic SNP test is done to verify haplogroup, but L11/P310 may not be the terminal SNP. The Geno 2.0 or the new Big Y tests will give you a terminal SNP. You can test for U106 or P312 specifically, but most likely you will have to test again.<br /><br />Thanks,<br />MikeMichael R. Magliohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05944718334788556140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-39428731732175969832014-03-05T18:10:04.330-05:002014-03-05T18:10:04.330-05:00My Carrow line is L11,P310,P311,L52 at 23andme and...My Carrow line is L11,P310,P311,L52 at 23andme and is M-269 at FTDNA.. Can I assume that is us or do I need to try to test M106 and P312.<br />Kathleen Carrow Ingramkathlingramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16924287558328676648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-46753999066375653072014-02-10T18:35:43.811-05:002014-02-10T18:35:43.811-05:00Thank you very much for your hard work Michael! It...Thank you very much for your hard work Michael! It is wonderful to receive recognition as a lineage distinct from mainstream European genetics.<br />Anyone reading this post and wondering if this applies to you, please take a Ydna test or Geno 2.0 and come join our clade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-18384183641373278192014-02-10T18:18:45.342-05:002014-02-10T18:18:45.342-05:00Michael, Thankyou very much for your excellent wo...Michael, Thankyou very much for your excellent work. You have done much to give us legitimacy for our own long efforts to come out of the mists as to who we are and where from. It is highly rewarding to know your work validates much if not most of ours. Your work is a new milestone in our progress.<br /><br />Doug Markerdsjm1https://www.blogger.com/profile/07779323885237127015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3191596183761659449.post-81228573286383341152014-02-10T17:56:51.137-05:002014-02-10T17:56:51.137-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07500042700018463975noreply@blogger.com